Any AFPAK conversation with the feebleminded, easily discouraged or the outright “Defeat At Any Cost” Retreat Loser Lobby often mentions Viet Nam.

Doofus grande’ at best or out right deceit at worst – truth is – AFPAK was never Vietnam and never will be.

More than 58,000 soldiers had died in Vietnam by the time the war ended in 1975. Up to 1,000 GIs were dying every week in 1968, and the overall conflict claimed the lives of at least 3 million Vietnamese and well over half a million Cambodians and Laotians.

At the height of the Vietnam War, there were 543,000 troops on the ground, or well over twice as many as are now deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

Most likely the thing that shapes ill concieved notions of AFPAK=Vietnam is the Mythology of Tet.

1968’s Tet Offensive has been incorrectly portrayed as a magical event where NVA Regulars and invincible Viet Cong guerrillas double teamed Great Satan and handed her the worst defeat in military history – way worse than the Battle of Corregidor and Kasserine Pass -combined.

And it’s all wrong.

Thankfully, Dr James S Robbins is unleashing “This Time We Win: Revisiting The Tet Offensive” and it is hot!

Literally hot ’cause it’s at the printers today!!

Giving the lie to funk obsessed defeatists from the past – Dr R shows how Viet Cong fought to annihilation – never again able to mount anything even remotely insurgent – and how Americans hop scotched around Vietnam crushing communistic cadre, militant sympathizers and true believers

“…This Time We Win at last provides an antidote to the flawed Tet mythology that continues to shape the perceptions of American military conflicts against unconventional enemies and haunt our troops in combat. Indeed, America’s enemies recognize and find inspiration in the prevailing Tet narrative.

“…The result is an explosion of the conventional wisdom on this infamous battle, one that offers real lessons for today’s unconventional wars. Without a clear understanding of these lessons, we will find ourselves reliving the Tet Offensive again and again.

Another Offensive launched from GrEaT sAtAn”S gIrLfRiEnD

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  1. Chaos
    Posted July 30, 2010 at 12:12 am Permalink

    Fortunately, the last time I was in a war, I was five.

  2. Posted July 30, 2010 at 6:02 am Permalink

    I guess it was more of a revolution than a full-fledged war, Chaos, but they did enough damage to themselves to constitute a war. They got the winning part wrong, the winner doesn’t destroy their own infrastructure…

    Anyway, I do take exception to people not drawing the distinction between a futile effort and a poor effort. Vietnam is held up as an example of an impossible situation, but I recall my mother complaining (often) about how the United States simply wasn’t willing to do what it took to win and there’s ample evidence of that being the case. Of course a lot of mistakes were made as well.

    Iraq is another good example, we almost snatched defeat from the jaws of victory because people like Obama insisted on trying to turn tail and run, rather than looking at how to better our effort in Iraq.

    Some people just have a lot of quit in them… I’m not saying you stay and fight just to stay in fight, but just because you made mistakes previously don’t mean you throw away the entire effort and all the sacrifices made.

  3. Spectre
    Posted July 30, 2010 at 7:28 am Permalink

    Well, it it true that US and ARVN forces soundly defeated N Vietnamese forces. The problem was that the US public had been told that the N Vietnamese had been decimated as a fighting force- and here on every evening news, their they were, big as life and demonstrably fighting. It was a propaganda victory, though the Viet Cong were never a significant fighting force afterward.

    Posted August 4, 2010 at 1:42 am Permalink


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